Facebook

YOu have been reported to GCHQ

Lol that's slander. I'd be careful

Or would just laugh at what you're trying to accuse

I can be almost 100% certain that the people I associate with wouldn't hear of such things

But lol okay whatever

What's your trying to do

I haven't a clue

And lots of people will now find out about your fucking weird tracking with numbers pretending to be the big guy lol

You have a lot of anger might suggest anger management

end off, good bye.

I don't want to talk to you, please, fuck off weird cunt

But if you want to swear and be abusive

haha, I run a wordpress site. and you saiy you can find ou about people ffs, your a kid

If you want to talk to me as an intellectual academic then so be it

And you're unable to use big words so you resort to profanity

And you got paranoid

And you're being abusive by someone who just made you aware of a situation

You run a WordPress site

If you have a proficiency in security systems show me a site where you've been legitimately acknowledged as a professional

😂

Lol you don't even come close

Yep, and you are a fucking snowflake, now do me a favour, I have been nice so far, fuck off and do something else.

All you can do is use profanity

tried many times, my history is in security systems lol

Again you're making something out of nothing

Lol I cba

Go try and piss off another security researcher to try and hack you

really, go for it then big shot

If someone really wanted to find you it's pretty easy

Use a digital device everything you use has webcams

I don't have to send an isolated number to track you

Again you're making something out of nothing

And paranoia

haha, is that a threat lol

U have a really bad temper

How fucking dare you send me a number isolated to track me

Watch it buddy lol😅

I do... go fuck yourself weido prick

I'm nice

I will never speak to someone like that

How do you run a police misconduct site and with the help people if you're this argumentative

You're making something literally out of nothing

Stop trying to feel singled out

It's done with everyone

contacting me, sending me issolated 'dedicated' number and trying to blame me for shit you get.

Hows athat a stalker ?

prick. fuck off stalker

Yep

SO, every person you ever contact you provide a different number.

It's done with everyone

And blamed me and they tell me you have sent an 'issolated number' dedicated to me. Fuck off, weirdo.

That's what security professionals do if we find a problem we alert the owner

And say thx

If someone sent me a similar message I would run a scan

Simply said what's happened

If has fuck all to do with what I own, you send me an isolated number to track me then try to blame me for spam...

Your manners are terrible

O.o

A lot of is trying to unified the system and this is how you speak to people

You own a police misconduct site and this is how you talk to people

Lear to read and fuck off.

Excuse me?

not with o2 numbers, do me a favour, fuck off and annoy someone else. prick!

If a number gets compromised so we can easily trace where it happened

Orisolated mails

Bit like virtual credit cards

Standard procedure

With everyone

Or get me to contact you.

Lol I may not know wordpress

Isolation number... to fucking contact me!

leading security specialist... lol, do me a favour

We just use isolation numbers

I'm not tracking you

I know I have a reputation as a leading security specialist. But lol

So, why are you providing me with a dedicated contact number!

It's how things are done here

Seriously. Man chill.

...

or trying to

Are you tracking me!

So tell me, you acquired an o2 number and you assigned it as a dedicated 'inbound' number to communicate with me, and only me.... wtf!!!

I don't think a network from O2 would issue a "dirty" number.

I'm not trying to question your intelligence. Just stating what's occurred

I think your going a bit off topic

So you are not the provider, maybe you need to contact your provider... o2... see where the number is listed.

Ok?

This is an O2 number

Mostly likely a spoofed caller id

The other is the spammer

07514694164 is the number we sent out

Ah that one

That's not the number

Even a basic search shows it is an abused number

No we use a programmatic interface

Or, you use a provider

Yes, we are an ofcom telecom provider, you must be if you use numbers that way

Their are other ways

That's Ofcom

Sorry man I don't mean to offend u

What is your RID code?

No I don't use things like that. We build our own platforms.

The numbers are fresh not reused.

It is NOT the only explanation at all!

If it is virtual number you posted, it is most likely the provider

The number you posted was 07514694164

It's the only explaination. As that number was only posted in this chat.

I'm just informing you of what's occurred.

It's common

lol, no it isn't

Or within your FB

I'm saying that something on your machine is siphoning phone numbers

No sir

Are you saying I am sending you spam?

The number is receiving spam texts. I'm s security programmer. It usually means some malware or program is siphoning telephone numbers.

From your applications. Check your 3rd party application access on FB.

You may have a 3rd party API enabled by a developer or service that has been either updated or bought by a different developer with alterior motives.

Once you give a 3rd party access to your FB data. they can update the app and change it's motives or methods without telling the user.

hi, lots of messages, not sure what you mean

I just checked the inbox and it's loaded with spam texts

This number was generated for you.

Hey you may want to check your devices.

It also looks like the site that had your details has been taken down.

We've taken a different approach regarding the police.

You're welcome to the police brutality data on that WordPress site it's not something that we use anymore.

However you did mention some officers that were targeting you do you mind if we place them on the site if you have their details.

Hey long time.

We've developed an extension called.

www.RateOurOfficers.org and www.RateOurPolice.org

Do you have any body that could assist us with simple Data Entry or any useful data.

I deleted 848mb of unused data from the site....WordPress really leaves allot of cr*p

Similar accounts*

Im in a little shock... the police set up a task force to nab you.....


But your a reputable IT director .... although since starting MyPoliceComplaints I'm seeing allot similar stories

here is the DB backup https://mypolicebrutality.org/SQLbk.sql.zip

well that was an eye opening clear out

hahaha, lol.

Yikes. Well that's what you get when a cyber security specialist manages a WordPress site😅

Im on it now. 😁

This is 1.4gb alone

Sure

can you do a clear up and rebackup and send?

Using the one click installer following an xml file

Ahhhh we used a theme previously to creating one.

It had downloaded a load of stock images

Hmmmm

If not all

Most should be linked to posts in the pages

Shouldn't have unrelated images

that site backup you sent has lots of unrelated images in it?

I like to see who attempted to login then block the IP from the entire server.

I have plugins that lock out after so many attempts

Thats a simple way

You can setup a IP lock via the .htaccess

You really should lock off the wp-login.php pages

And he confirmed he created the website in a facebook post

kind of, the police confirmed it!

.... oh he is a police informent

As a snitch, see https://OperationMalaya.com/

Jeez OK let me rack my brain for a few mins

Seriously

.....

Cannot go the other route, he works for police!

I own danoli

Have you thought about perhaps paying hired muscle to give him a strong warning?

Is the computer company attached to you or you just work there. Danoli

yer, I just need to disable the site somehow, my wife and I got death threats because if it, the guy making the threats has been charged! but the guy making the site not even questioned.

It doesn't work

Like www.mypolicebrutality.org/wp-login.php

Seems like a newb XD

All my WordPress sites we shut off rhe login page and rename all the plugins so that it cannot be attacked.

You could set up a Linux server on a safe IP address and send out an attack directly to his IP address overloading the web server which would take it offline

Well its a wordpress site and he has left the login page open.


http://www.paulponting.online/wp-login.php

So it could be brute forced open by using SQL injection to attack plugins that have been installed and noy updated.

But there is nothing to stop him reuploading it.

Server wise if he is on a dedicated host and he receives a denial of service attack it will just affect his website however if he's on the a shared host and such an attack is issued then it would affect his website and all the other websites attached to that server and then the hosting company would most likely get involved

Send me the link and I'll take a look

You just have to contact the individual web hosters and the people responsible for the domain name not the domain name owner but rather the domain name registry

i've tried all sorts.

You don't have to contact the police to get a site removed you can do the work yourself

Godaddy!

Have you tried contacting the Host

There is a website that has been created about me, police claim that cannot get it removed by cycomms, I know who did it but police are protecting them.

Um lol I'm one of the good guys. Although we are trained to know how to. We use the knowledge to help better protect people

Can you hack websites?

Awesome thank you. If you need anything :) I've whitelisted your details. So happy to provide free coding or programming if you need it.

I have it now

Let me know when you've got in and I shall remove it from the public space

If you can download that inside has the file and the SQL .zip

Sure, can you run a full backup on your existing website (site transfer backup) and send me the zip of the content and sql. I will upload to one of our servers and then give you the name server addresses to change on the domain.

Sorry Paul I had to run off and attend something. Kids taking up all my time 😅

Would you be willing to take our news site over to your servers. As we are struggling to maintain it.

We built the WordPress theme it uses and are happy to share it.

Ok this is the original site we started our with before launching mypolicecomplaint.org we were going to integrate the two but... we felt the brutality name was too harsh for what we were trying to achieve

As long as the stored data is legal, I have no issues

they have no chance of getting data from me, I move to different hosts in the UK and EU

Facial recognition technology I spoke to Microsoft and Google and they do not allow law enforcement to use the technology in the fears they would use it negatively.
Hence I followed suit and licenced my tech as proprietary.
Saying they were happy for me to use there technology to combat police brutality.

The police have tried a few times to access my systems but are unable to bypass my encryption. They did once issue me with a section 42 and section 53 to give up the information. Which I did but by the time I did the time had expired rendering the data inert.

I've recently released a tool called NOData. It's locked the decryption key to the devices location if the device is moved the data is no longer possible to be decrypted.

If we moved our servers to you. You'd be subjugated to the same order if that were to happen?

true, but what you see as a public service would be argued as processing data. I agree with you but know how easy the police abuse the civil courts

Ah I saw that, the ICO said we didn't have to register providing we were providing a public service and we were non-profit

Posting a picture as part of a article is different

The facial recognition is great in principle but it is regulated

See if you are to store images of police officers in an official capacity, you would require the register with the ICO for data processing

We've coded these engines for 6 years straight

Although I'm determined to find a way through

I'm guessing this kinda site is a No-Go for the UK or someone would of coded something similar.

Yes, something like that, it is based on a reasonable person test. Would a reasonable person, with all the facts agree

Even if a disclaimer is posted on the comment how do joke sites get away with this like the Huffington Post or is it because they clearly display the the articles don't have any truth to them

I recently took a news site offline, as I feared a similar accusation. Now I'm wondering if I should leave it online as it may give this site some weight.

I'm just reloading the snapshot now give it 10 minutes or so and I will send you the link

Even if the complainee was 100% that the sexual offence took place, the complaint would have been written as a direct claim of fact, the outcome (like all police outcomes) will try to cover it up. Then to publish the complaint AFTER the finding may be cause for concern to the website.

So, say a person complained that PC Bloggs sexually assaulted them. Say the complaint was not upheld and the police say there was no evidence. Publishing the allegation AFTER the finding could be said to be publishing known incorrect comments.

If it is to add existing complaints that would be different however, if the complaint was not upheld (like most!) it would be argued that it was posted AFTER being found to have no case and the allegation made in the original will not take to outcome into account.

complaints are technically private, many may not want to make public their complaint and to ensure it is complaint with the law and HRA, it would have to be written in a way that circumvents such issues.

Well we are encouraging users to go through the normal complaints procedure but add their complaint to the site

The problem with your process and ideas is that it is encouraging people to conduct their complaint in public. This raises some issues with how a complaint would normally be submitted or even dealt with.

Or would you be willing to come on board and assist in the areas that we lack in?

Would you allow us to advertise this app on your sites or pages ?

Yes, the first £35,000 was paid to me , the rest was since the £30k against me so they knocked it off their bill lol. I have two more claims in progress.

Jeez... did they pay?


Would you be willing to take a look at our procedure

And see if any of the terminologies don't equate to UK policing

I have alread sued them for £42,000

I posted quite freely about incidents that have happened to me. They took an injunction against me to stop blogging about lancashire police and they sought a cost order for their legal fees.

Or was it simply because you are on the site not because it was you that posted it

Servers

Do your service have any anonymizing protection or encryption

I haven't paid it. Irefused.

But I suppose that kind of works in my favour I guess how can you get sued if you don't have have the finance to pay it I mean it's not going to be a long court case

Yeh I couldn't pay that rn.

Since the start of the lockdown in 2019 I've been doing as much charity non-profit altruistic work that I can think of and it's been really great except for you don't get paid. But helping people out means allot so I don't mind too much.

Woah

I was stung for £30,000 for blogging last year!

Human Rights Act and Civil torts of defamation etc

possibly, but if Facebook, google and twitter are not reliable sources, you could be still liable

*restrictions worse

I swear it was the news of the world that made all these restrictions

Yes, that is possibly enough as the website is making a disclaimer that the content may not be true, however, if someone used the website so spread malice, then the website could be label for leaving it published IF it is proven (on balance) to be false.

So if it's written on Facebook and then it's being blogged about on Twitter and then someone's written a Google review on it then it's ok for us to make the publication

Lets say you know a cop is a sexual predator then, as long as you can support the comment, you can publish it, even if he doesn't like it, however, if you hear a rumour, you would have to ensure it is written as an allegation that he is a sexual predator. It is a big difference in law.

At the top is has a disclaimer. Is this enough ?

https://www.mypolicecomplaint.org/complaint/read-28


This was uploaded by my mum

To substantiate a fact being true you either need evidence it is true or you declare it an allegation

Yet if we do the same in a similar event we can be sued for a financial sum of money

Or the judicial*

So we're only liable if we refuse to remove it what if it was posted via IPFS we would be unable to remove it.

I guess we have to put in a function so that any ipfs records that are uploaded are true.

My argument is that the police can destroy someone's life for the judicial system can destroy someone's life when publishing an article in relation to a crime or an offence as members of the general public do not know the ins and outs of that case

Then the publication would have to be considered whether it is an alleged criminal offence or civil tort (civil offence)

If the subject felt the publication was unlawful, it would be for them to seek for it to be removed, they would come to the website which, in broad terms become liable for the publication if they decide NOT to remove it.

sub-judice means information relating to a criminal investigation or trial

It depends what was published, however, it also depends if there are any reporting laws.

Please use small words😅

That could be sub-judice

Would we get in trouble or would it be the parent

That investigation is still ongoing

Let's say the parents chose to upload information about the police officer at the Metropolitan Police

Let's take the Sarah case an example

from a legal perspective, it depends on what was published

Currently or servers are stored in Norway or Amsterdam I think it allows us some privacy however I'm not exactly sure

I had a take down request made on my site once, I had it back in 2 hours

Would you know where we stand when someone publishes something that could be considered on true are we the publisher as a site or is it the person that clicks the publish button

It's not good for dynamic sites but it's ok for static web pages once something is placed there it's difficult to get down

I give free space to any sites relating to outing police corruption

IPFS would alleviate censorship it's a immutable it's undeletable

Would be something to look into as if we expand. Atm Amazon allows for a free space for non profits and we use digital ocean for dev

why IPFS?

do you pay for hosting or do you have you own servers? I have servers if that helps?

We are looking at using IPFS for records aka the block chain.

I designed a large portion of the services and I sort out the hosting so I guess you could say that. But we have a lot of volunteers and developers that have made their mark on the site so I guess it's a group thing

*yours

Is the UK website your?

We do have some small data entry projects if you know anyone that would like to take on that it consists of adding Police Department data to the system.

Im currently writing an api to link to the UK Police API so that we can pull and aggregate relevant data.

The IPCC OR IOPC is crap

The site was originally localised for American law I am at the moment writing or rewriting a lot of things for British and UK law a person that has experience with UK law defamation slander would be quite useful as we would be able to understand and what legal obligation we have have and where it might be possible to to bend the rules considering it is a grey area at the moment

Why does he suggest that?

Ah its ok. I was initially scared to message people about this project 😅 but as it developed I realised I was initially scared to messagemore people seem to have similar interests

That knowledge would be quite useful I just got off the phone with mark Hanna who suggested I should contact a legal rep but we are nonprofit https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/journalism/people/academic/mark-hanna
Atm £6000 for a legal chat isnt feasible

Aww, bless her, I didn't give her much time to be fair I get a lot of messages

I am technical and am fairly up to date on legal matters, I am studying law to degree level

Yeh that's my mother. 😅 she is 84... but still trying

Im purely technical UK law is a bit complex

I was contacted by a person called Eden Baksh about your website?

Because this is such a great area and this is never been done before I would be greatly appreciate guidance advice from someone who has more experience

She wrote a book about police corruption

Helen is

Its not an issue lol

I did notice one of your page members was

Nooooooooo

Are you ex police?

I am deeply involved in https://ukcorruptpolice.com/ and always looking for more projects. My site is monitored by all forces in the uk, 30k hits per month and rising. I have some police HQ IP addresses although they are often masked.

There isn't enough transparency, they are as transparent as mud

Do you think there's something that we should change rewrite or focus on if you would like to come on board that's great let me know

If you would like to come on board.

I would like to know what do you think of this type of product do you reckon there's a need for more police transparency?

Or perhaps you think they're transparent enough😅

I have a few cases but they include myself

What are you looking at from me? Do you want me on board?

It sounds interesting, do you have any cases people have uploaded

Ah its cool. 😆some of us can't go out. What did u think of the project

Sorry, I was out most of the day

Was that too much information?

However at the moment a lot of people are being forthcoming with this and I don't think I need to use that option within the UK

If I suffer from censorship I have the option to to upload the police records to the blockchain which is a very unique piece of technology and is very difficult for that data then to be deleted

need it

Nevertheless the ball has started this software is in motion it's going to happen more people are becoming interested in the development side and I will offer this product to other countries that needed

their software*

As with all facial recognition software especially those developed by Microsoft and Google we are all aware how how the platform could be used negatively by law enforcement and Microsoft and Google have banned law enforcement from using a software I have also licensed my facial recognition technology as proprietary however I'm willing to use it for this application

It's frustrating especially with Sarah's case and a lot of cases is people do not know who they have let into their home and who they have entrusted with their story and what history that person has

There are a few things which I wish to resolve with this site one is accountability and transparency I was shot when I had an incident with the police and I made my report but the report that the officer gave had more weight than mine

I have have calls from fed reps and people that have written books on uk- journalism against the police calling me back this week however I'm a citizen I would much rather take advice from citizens as they have the problem with the police

As a software engineer we have a skill set but generally we usually charge quite a bit for our services however when it comes to a passion and something you have your heart in since we all volunteering the sky is the limit to what we can implement we just need advice from people as the software engineers including myself despite police harassment I'm from a purely technical background

We are looking for more UK volunteers to join and advise

We are all volunteers and this is nonprofit

How big is the team?

07514694164 if you wish to chat :) I'm Trying my best to be as open and as transparent as possible

In the usa

Are you in the UK

The doorbell api system is in early development but we have rolled out a test over in detroit with great feedback from minority communities

It's only the fact that my parents work in the medical industry so generally they have a good character background

My interaction with the police 15 years ago is stupid I attended the nightclub call revenge at 16 and a lot of my friends were attending between the ages of 14 and 17 I reported this to the police but I wasn't aware the club used ex police at the door and the harassment started from then

When Sussex police was aware I was developing such technology they came to my house in masks*

However this enabled us to further the train the algorithm that using the facial detection systems so we can now also now analyse them through the mask

When Sussex police was aware I would developing such technology they came to my house in masks

It is still in development but ideally if a police officer were to pass within the view of a ring doorbell previous complaints link to that officer will be displayed to the citizen

The facial recognition also helps in another part we are developing an overlay that can link to a consumers doorbell system like a ring doorbell

If they wish to do so

We don't use facial recognition for the users we asked them to verify their profile by possibly linking a social profile like Twitter or Facebook

Now if another user upload similar images of that officer facial recognition is used to match that with the other complaints that have been received for that officer

The facial recognition is purely for the police officer not for the citizen if a citizen uploads or tag videos of a complaint regarding a police officer a temporary profile of that officer is created

Ah ok.. let me explain

Since it's creation our Development Team have been arrested a few times and released on nfa we are well aware of the problems that

What is the need for facial recognition

You can now call each other and see information such as Active Status and when you've read messages.

Hi

Hello Paul

Im one of the lead developers for MyPoliceComplaint.

We're still in early development stages however our product has gone live and we receiving quite an uplifting response from the general community as it is a very different product from the IPCC or the IOPC.

There is a story on the internet where I have suffered harassment from Sussex police for the past 15 years so in the last 6 years I have trained facial recognition systems to analyse and detect their general behaviour by creating a profile map of their face this is state-of-the-art technology.

Its causing a bit of a stir with the police but 🤬 em i cba.


I'm contacting you because I'd like to know if you could provide me a slight insight on what you think is is necessary on such a site or if you're able to take a look at it